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Ukraine peace talks: Is Putin trying to reshape Europe's security? | DW News

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shamsmirza7373
@shamsmirza7373Imported30 Min ago
Here we go again. According to the second expert, Russia is bogged down in Eastern Ukraine and is losing both weaponry and men at exponential rate and at the same time Europe or at least some countries in Eastern Europe are in mortal danger of being invaded by Russian army. Of course, both of the situations can't be right at the same time. This type of empty assertions have incensed saner experts since the start of SMO but every time this suggestions is put to the people making it they revert to type by stating that Russia is indulging in hybrid warfare without going into specifics.
sabay8x3j
@sabay8x3jImported36 Min ago
Europe is trying to attack America
herculesvalhalla
@herculesvalhallaImported49 Min ago
Why don't you just become one single country in Europe? But then again, everyone in Europe wants to be king—that will never happen there because all the leaders are too full of themselves. Historically, it’s always been about killing, wanting to be king, and trying to conquer the whole of Europe. Is that just how Europeans are? There’s no unity; people betray their own countries, all in the pursuit of making money from completely worthless things.
ashleydemar2445
@ashleydemar2445Imported54 Min ago
Who is this person to sayfinland poland are under military pressure. This person's thinking shaped in war like mind. Did finland poland and all Europe live with harmany before callously NATO expansion eastwards
edgardobenitez8378
@edgardobenitez8378Imported1h ago
We all know nothing will come out of this 🤌⚖️
jonoreinarsson4177
@jonoreinarsson4177Imported1h ago
It's terrible sad that people have to suffer and die for many years before anyone really tries to achieve peace. I suspect this is because of economic gain. Don't mess up this opportunity to achieve peace; yes, all war parties need to give up something for peace to happen...
lewismeffordg4n
@lewismeffordg4nImported1h ago
Hey Congress, why isn't USSOS Rubio representing USA?
nnwtu
@nnwtuImported1h ago
May God help justice win
arsenasvarov1400
@arsenasvarov1400Imported1h ago
"Reshape European security" as if its smth bad. The audacity of surrounding a big country with military bases from north to south and then complaining that that country doesnt like it - its truly mesmerizing
keslot
@keslotImported1h ago
The recent peace negotiations in the Middle East between Ukraine and Russia highlight a troubling shift in global geopolitics. By sidelining the EU, Germany, France, and other European nations from the negotiating table, the United States and Russia have sent a clear and alarming message: without hard power, your voice does not matter.<br>This situation forces us to look back at the Budapest Memorandum, signed on December 5, 1994, by Ukraine, Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom. Under this agreement, Ukraine gave up the world’s third-largest nuclear arsenal in exchange for security assurances regarding its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Today, those assurances have proven to be a complete illusion. While Russia has blatantly violated them through aggression, the actions of the United States represent a massive betrayal—one that borders on outright treason against its allies. By excluding Europe from talks that directly determine the future of its own security, Washington has shown that its word cannot be trusted, effectively rendering a U.S.-led NATO completely uninteresting and obsolete for Europe.<br>The conclusion for smaller and non-nuclear states is stark: great powers do not take you seriously unless you possess nuclear weapons. If international agreements and alliance guarantees cannot be trusted to protect a nation&#39;s borders or even secure it a seat at the table, the entire foundation of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) is at risk of collapsing.<br>For smaller nations to maintain true sovereignty and an independent foreign policy, deterrence is becoming a necessity rather than a choice. Given this profound betrayal—and the realization that Europe can no longer rely on American leadership—I strongly believe we will see several European countries move toward developing their own nuclear weapons in the near future.
duiveldoder
@duiveldoderImported1h ago
&quot;Pressure on Europe&quot;<br>EU should kick the USA out of NATO.<br>Cut them off from ASML<br>and create a military alliance with Russia and China against the USA!<br><br>Let&#39;s isolate the Americans
thomaslidstrom519
@thomaslidstrom519Imported1h ago
The whole thing have a simple solution:<br>Everything non-military with &quot;Europe&quot;: Take it through EU.<br>Everything military with &quot;Europe&quot;: Take it with NATO.<br>It is NATO that should provide security guarantees for Ukraine, not individual nations.<br>It is the EU that Ukraine wants to join.
duiveldoder
@duiveldoderImported1h ago
Kick the USA out of NATO! Better the whole world joins the Sino-Russian alliance, get rid of NATO and everyone joins BRICS.<br><br>Then no more wars, because the war in Ukraine is because Putin claims every single Republican must die..<br><br>So better the whole world joins Russia so Russia can go straight for the throats of those Russian civilians wish to kill in the first place.
vasilimacharadze139
@vasilimacharadze139Imported1h ago
forced peace with russia is always followed by new invesions (Georgia, Ukraine ...). Only way to keep peace with russia is to be strong enough and to unite
ontheruntours
@ontheruntoursImported2h ago
Europe was not invited to the meeting. 😂
sofacommentator
@sofacommentatorImported2h ago
Europe needs to be strong and united. We are a super power and need to act like it. If you give in to bullying it will only get worse. We need firm and just management.
madnozz
@madnozzImported2h ago
Poutine does not want peace, what he wants is the whole of Ukraine and also, the previous warsaw pact countries plus eastern Germany.
sendlubes
@sendlubesImported2h ago
No More Russian gass in Europe . Period .
bitscnc2848
@bitscnc2848Imported2h ago
Que parte de que a Rusia no le interesa Europa, es que estos no han entendido&gt;? Europa se esta destruyendo a si misma quien quiere cargar con ese marrón, la arrogancia los va a perder, cuando despierten con ciudades destruidas, sociedades desarticuladas, entonces conocerán las consecuencias de tantas decisiones estúpidas.
aasif193
@aasif193Imported2h ago
Europe leaders just want disturb this talk...better let two fighting party decide their fate ....one thing I am sure Ukraine will never win this war...against russia ...<br>Whether whole europe get together ...
thabangmohokare9587
@thabangmohokare9587Imported2h ago
Ukraine should abdone their NATO ambitions and remain neutral......accede to loss of Oblasts where Russian speaking people reside. Join EU for economic development of their country and enjoy cheap energy that comes from mother Russia😂.... simply because the continued war on Ukraine would ruin their state that&#39;s already in tatters due to corruption under that clown (Zelensky)
sergioqg3do
@sergioqg3doImported2h ago
Trump - agent KGB.
aasif193
@aasif193Imported2h ago
Y Jared boy looking like hopeless .. 😂😂
xenosmordax111
@xenosmordax111Imported2h ago
It would be easier to go to world war 3 than to go to peace this year or next year.
ericaryee9296
@ericaryee9296Imported2h ago
Same war logic! Grow up and start thinking peace re second pundits
thomasbarcom
@thomasbarcomImported2h ago
Scheme only to advantage Putin
johnjonesk9d
@johnjonesk9dImported2h ago
They talk about Europe becoming less secure.<br><br>Why are 450million Europeans terrified of 130million Russians.<br><br>Jeez the Propoganda from Daw, they keep bringing on these war monger and MIC propagandists.<br><br>There is no point having the EU at negotaions as they don’t want peace.
victorsamuel8708
@victorsamuel8708Imported3h ago
It needs to be permanent solution not immediate ceasefire as it will give Ukraine to stabilize and regroup with more Arms and ammunition which Russia will never agree and Europe warmongering leaders will not allow Ukraine to last man fighting in this unwinnable war against Russia
johnjonesk9d
@johnjonesk9dImported3h ago
Why no ceasefire.<br><br>Russia knows that Europe does not want peace at all, look at the maximal conditions from the EU, look at the rhetoric from the EU its only anti Russia and war only along with demands that a re ridiculous.<br><br>Europe is broke, Ukriane has lost and the EU is now irrelevant on the world stage.
levinpavel2023ie9dy
@levinpavel2023ie9dyImported3h ago
Why would invite EU at he table if its protected by USA, USa can negotiate on their behalf😂... How can you allow foreign military bases on your soil😂😂😂
levinpavel2023ie9dy
@levinpavel2023ie9dyImported3h ago
The is no EU security as long as its controlled by NATO, which is fully led by USA... solution is to expel nato from EU and create your own security architecture
liboch
@libochImported3h ago
The europeans are overestimating themselves
samuellopesbaule5745
@samuellopesbaule5745Imported3h ago
Europe has no cards, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lilee376
@lilee376Imported3h ago
Until Trumps corrupt goons are helping, the peace is not possible. They are simply working for Putin.
johnjonesk9d
@johnjonesk9dImported3h ago
DW media is not telling the truth as usual.
cybergilly007
@cybergilly007Imported3h ago
And why shouldnt Europe&#39;s security and Russia&#39;s be taken into consideration to achieve peace?
olgaslipczenko
@olgaslipczenkoImported3h ago
Trapppp😮😢<br>Jared👹
udayaudugama
@udayaudugamaImported3h ago
Guys winner dictate the terms of peace! Russia is basically saying take it or leave it! EU will have to fight Russia on behalf of Ukraine if they want to march to Kremlin!!
nolan485
@nolan485Imported3h ago
We want to leave the Eastern European border states, esp. the Baltics, which is a trap for the USA that Europeans refuse to disarm. UMP could move troops elsewhere. Europe is very weak, too.
gongghuru
@gongghuruImported3h ago
Daddy is the one you all take orders from <br>Daddy is your defender, why talk to you <br>when you can&#39;t defend yourself, you said<br>without the US support there&#39;s no Ukraine 🐑
revilohtinamssor2842
@revilohtinamssor2842Imported3h ago
Well, the &quot;European&quot; did not want to be on a picture with Lavrow but now they want to sit on the table with the Russian.
ermesolop4l
@ermesolop4lImported3h ago
Zelensky is a comedian 😜😜😜😜
ermesolop4l
@ermesolop4lImported4h ago
Go Russia 🇷🇺🇷🇺💪💪
ermesolop4l
@ermesolop4lImported4h ago
🇺🇦Ukraine already lost the war😅😅😅
sqrpegm8n
@sqrpegm8nImported4h ago
Ukraine peace talks: Is Putin trying to reshape Europe&#39;s security? | DW News<br>...<br>Hm, yes, he&#39;s been saying that for decades now.
jorml1027
@jorml1027Imported4h ago
Does anyone actually believe that this american delegation is actually pushing for Europeans to be at the negotiations?
texzor
@texzorImported4h ago
Russias Mafia Mobsters demanding things thats not theirs. Nothing New.
basilebomf8j
@basilebomf8jImported4h ago
Stop this nonsense Europe does not want to talk and does not peace and does not want to declare war against Russia with out USA and wants to expand to Russian door steps who is fooling who
apcm7mx
@apcm7mxImported4h ago
Peace talks??? US and Russia are only there for business deals (= filling the pockets of the Trump family) ....... mafia and war-criminals at one table.
ronstoeber9808
@ronstoeber9808Imported4h ago
why are you so scared of Russia on your doorstep ... NATO in Ukraine is exactly the same thing ... let Ukraine be neutral for god sakes
aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414Imported4h ago
The charade continues.
ceo_of_tiger_foundation
@Trisha-ontheway
kennedynyabuto1072
@kennedynyabuto1072Imported5h ago
Putin is just human being
talkpan_africa
@talkpan_africaImported5h ago
Always discussing Putin as if he is the problem but it’s rather Europe hiding behind Zelenskyy. I don’t think there will be any peace; more people are going to die; Europe will blame the economic crisis in Europe on Russia, more far-right movement politicians winning elections. This war would have ended long time ago if not for some European leaders.
ad_astra14
@ad_astra14Imported5h ago
Pro Russian logic: invading is peaceful, defending is warmongering.<br><br>Peace is war, war is peace.
scoobyp69
@scoobyp69Imported5h ago
Finally, someone with common sense <br>I agree 💯
bob_beavers
@bob_beaversImported5h ago
&quot;Putin has insisted that Ukraine surrender the entire eastern region...&quot; - Kiev is still at civil war with this region, in case anyone has forgotten. Kiev doesn&#39;t consider people living there to be Ukrainian citizens, even the EU call them &quot;pro-Russian rebels&quot;. Let them become free or part of Russia
fronabulax63
@fronabulax63Imported5h ago
both sides think they are winning and can impose their will.<br>Let&#39;s wait another 5 years and see what is left.
sumairajatoic4r
@sumairajatoic4rImported5h ago
Gb
meshrath
@meshrathImported5h ago
The only way to secure Europe&#39;s security is to talk to the Russian&#39;s and agree to accept each other&#39;s security concerns. Europe only has to agree to not expand NATO further. But as long as NATO keeps trying to expand, there will never be security in Europe. And if it comes down to fighting, the Russians won&#39;t be found wanting. I suspect it is actually NATO minus the US that cannot fight any sort of war where their soldiers and citizens are dying and bombs and missiles are landing in their cities.
notisln
@notislnImported5h ago
Putin doesn&#39;t want peace. Begging for him to come to the negotiation table only strengthens his position. The only language he understands is escalation. We need to send troops to Ukraine and destroy the Russian army.
hardcore476
@hardcore476Imported5h ago
Russia is a failed empire. I think it&#39;s funny the EU is scared
meshrath
@meshrathImported5h ago
I don&#39;t understand the commentator saying Kiev is being forced to accept de-facto defeat. Does he expect us to believe that Kiev is actually winning this war. Russia controls 20 percent of Ukraine. Ukraine is running out of soldiers and weapons. Their ability to fight has been severely degraded. Infrastructure is devastated. Ukraine has already lost this war. The key now is to accept reality and defeat and try to build up the country again. Soon there wont be a need for talks after Russia destroys the Ukrainian defences fully.
anupj87
@anupj87Imported6h ago
🚨 modi says to indian soldiers this week , &quot; We must wipe out all intellectuals in the country. They are against me. They are exposing my corruption. So we must have wipe out every opposition person in the country. &quot;
prakashneupane6638
@prakashneupane6638Imported6h ago
Europe always wanted war. It doesn&#39;t want to end war soon. Pressure in Europe will only end this war. America or Russia can not end this war soon
natethepancake
@natethepancakeImported6h ago
Donalds Möglichkeiten an Öl zu kommen, hat er sich selber verbockt. In jemandes Ars* muss er nun kriechen, bei den Iranern scheint das wohl gerade nicht zu gehen...
wfchan3501
@wfchan3501Imported6h ago
why Ukraine is still there if its bigger supporter EU is not on the table.
ch_ris_alex
@ch_ris_alexImported6h ago
A lot of Russian Bots here...
redtalen8g
@redtalen8gImported7h ago
Germany should never have been allowed to join NATO.
marklinmaceda2010
@marklinmaceda2010Imported7h ago
Good news Godbless Ukraine 🇺🇦 and Russia 🇷🇺 🎉
deborahr4860
@deborahr4860Imported7h ago
Why call them peace talks when clearly they are not.
deborahr4860
@deborahr4860Imported7h ago
Putin&#39;s dreaming.
denisgorjunov
@denisgorjunovImported7h ago
As always DW is so warmongering 🐸🐸🐸 🪖🪖🪖 I am sure they take bribes from zelensky.
purpleapple2864
@purpleapple2864Imported7h ago
EU doesn&#39;t want peace hence the title peace or a trap.Well if u want war, Russia is Ready to fight even for 200 years.Bravo Russia
kaneo426
@kaneo426Imported7h ago
WTF is a real estate agent doing there.
oasis5683
@oasis5683Imported7h ago
European main goal is to derail the peace talks, and they want war to continue
micheal49
@micheal49Imported8h ago
There will be no peace &#39;till Putin is cold in the ground and rotting away.
cjcdrj
@cjcdrjImported8h ago
Why do the EU warmongers sound so angry about peace talks?
graebags
@graebagsImported8h ago
You said “unless one side is willing to give up territory”. When has anyone ever asked russia to give up a square inch of russia? These talks are useless waste of time that only appeases russias plans to steal land by murdering the innocent
nickdzp4k
@nickdzp4kImported8h ago
These so called experts provide the answer why europe is not on the table, they are not interested in peace, they are warmongers.
concreteartfxincconcord
EU leaders acting like children rather than professional diplomats as it has been in previous decades and then wonder why they don&#39;t get a seat a the adult table.
hardeepchaudhary893
@hardeepchaudhary893Imported8h ago
Russia should end the war and focus on its economy
hardeepchaudhary893
@hardeepchaudhary893Imported8h ago
Russia is the largest country in the world already how much more land does Russia want? USSR is broken and can&#39;t be stitched back up.
hardeepchaudhary893
@hardeepchaudhary893Imported8h ago
Ukraine wants to join Europe not NATO
hardeepchaudhary893
@hardeepchaudhary893Imported8h ago
Why should Ukraine and Europe give up its security against Russia <br><br>Russia can&#39;t be trusted
hardeepchaudhary893
@hardeepchaudhary893Imported8h ago
It seems that Putin doesn&#39;t want to end the war for some reason
flowermanc48
@flowermanc48Imported8h ago
Macron’s qualifications are useless as Le Pen and Putin.
hardeepchaudhary893
@hardeepchaudhary893Imported8h ago
Putin has no fear of Jesus
arcdra6676
@arcdra6676Imported8h ago
If your government stops funding Ukraine, Zelensky would agree the peace talk immediately!
drbundforah5267
@drbundforah5267Imported8h ago
Why can’t Ukraine just realize the only way to peace is to capitulate to Moscow and turn itself into a Russian oblast and an integral part of Mother Russia?
daisies5
@daisies5Imported8h ago
Why Europe is considered as one entity through the EU? Where is the atonomy of individual countries. It seems they are stuck and controlled by the EU Commission
vcasdfawerqwerasdfar
@vcasdfawerqwerasdfarImported8h ago
Putin is schizophrenic isn&#39;t he?
timbosley8307
@timbosley8307Imported8h ago
It&#39;s a stalling operation. If Putin loses in Ukraine, he loses his office.
ariaatmar9489
@ariaatmar9489Imported9h ago
Russia will dictate terms, Mr Ian you will see it and will cry like a baby. You are gone and you can not accept the reality. You wanted to extend your NATO machine of terror into Ukraine and Putin at the Munich Security Summit warned you not to do. You took his words as a joke.
ariaatmar9489
@ariaatmar9489Imported9h ago
EU is no longer in the position to save Ukraine and even itself. Zelensky&#39;s future is at stake and if he accepts Russa&#39;s peace demands, his own county men will behead him since. The Kiev&#39;s clown made a major mistake by listening to the British prime minister puppet Boris. EU is in a very bad military and economic situation, both Brits and Americans managed to crash its economy as their main giant rival. In particular Germany.
tosa305
@tosa305Imported9h ago
Without russian threat and russian willingness to expand Europe would be safe. Russia has no place in humanity
branimirsalevic5092
@branimirsalevic5092Imported9h ago
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLKiycgbcgs&amp;t=261">4:21</a> They tried that quite a few times, but with liers and cheters you need a firm contract, with firm guarantees.
donlestert8v
@donlestert8vImported9h ago
Why would Putin want a ceasefire? Ukraine has no men, weapons, money, nor plan. At the same time Europe is divided, broke, overwhelmed with illegal aliens, and several of its capital cities are on fire. Europe and Ukraine are falling. Will Canada save Europe? I don&#39;t think so.
gglo4sc
@gglo4scImported9h ago
dw coping lol
tlll8590
@tlll8590Imported9h ago
Russia keeps breaking all the promises. It is funny they still trust him. Negotiation is just buying time for the next attack.