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MOD confirms that the British Army is officially not undermanned⚠️ But, is this the whole picture? Does it account for the number of people who are deemed undep…
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thats why I see army job on indeed and adverts.....
Not short on soldiers. Short on money. If they were given more they would recruit more. As to being picking. Only the best should ever be picked. When it comes to protecting the country it matters not your sex or sexual orientation or what you prefer to be known as.. Are you the best at all that is required for you to be the best soldier should be the reason you are picked
But only enough ammunition for a busy afternoon 😂
This doesn't include long term standby reserves and normal reserves
Including recruits. The issue is- ukraine is proving that the army needs to be bigger.
Don’t sound like propaganda
Lies, lies and statistics.
The more troops the beter. If you have a big military you have a strong military. The British army is severely broke they were begin america for free transport and needed a lend lease. Whoever the generals are and the marshal should get fired why don't you recruit gamers. I know how stupid it sounds but seriously make a exam and a fitness training program and if you treat them nice and gave then like a hotel room you would have good generals and officers
We are obviously under manned. We are losing quicker than we can replace.<br>And we now have private recruitment 😮 which is a very bad idea.
Ermmm, and the criticism that CrAPITA have continually failed to perform in regards to recruitment for decades was simply a figment of imagination?
Ok we are not underpinned just under funded. We need more in the Army. We could not defend our major camps let along fight in a war!
I think we need as many as possible
How many of those 73,000 regulars have a BMI under 30?
Tbh, the army is by far the least important branch when it’s compared to the navy and Air Force. <br><br>We don’t need a huge army, just a very well trained one
All these arm chair generals and even actual army personnel seem to forget about Britain's geography. It's a pretty small island, so there is no need for a large army, and therefore it's better to have quality over quantity. What they actually need is a nuclear deterrent, allies (NATO) and a large navy with aircraft carriers. It's the Navy they should focus on, not the army.
It's probably under-personed not enough they thems
Dorsnt matter the numbers andvequient....NATO is on lost position without Tusdia andRusia itself is able to win with the whole NATO and even ww2 without Russia would be lost and Germany would rin and would be able to destroy USAbt it didnt happrnedas ww2 wasmade and witj help of theveedt to beneit theveedt ans mainly USA and people from one cpuntry on occupied land who runs the world and USA at least on visible level to us....
More spin!
So we have an army of a measly 73k and only took on 7k when we could have taken on around 100k. Russia loses this amount on the monthly.....
So despite the fact that I can’t field a section to support a week long exercise for a Sqn, we are apparently not undermanned.<br>I think the government and the rest of the English speaking world have a differing opinion of what “undermanned” means.
I would have thought it simple really……. We seem to be at a point where we are at the most unstable in terms of potential conflict I can remember…. Surely all we need to do is look at the numbers of assets in terms of kit…..ie Ships, planes , tanks and personnel and back up and compare the position now, to periods going back in time……bearing in mind we’ve been cutting back on defence for decades……..if in the current situation we are down then clearly we are undermanned……those that harp on about advances in technology are correct however the current situation in Ukraine still points to the need for both equipment and manpower…..it’s totally naive to think that just because you start with 80 tanks on Monday you will still have that many by Wednesday……. Nothing like cooking the books in peace time to deliver the result required……
Mate just get rid of all the impossible to meet medical standards, get the ones that are low risk a waiver instead of saying "fuckoff never return"
Propaganda
LMAO I joined in 87 we had double the numbers in the Army than today, look at our Royal Navy from the 80s to now JOKE and they moot about war.....Our forces budgeters are smoking something.
Not unmanned, its gvmt policy to import hundreds of thousands of third-world foreign randos. They'll be sure to fill up the ranks.
The MoD confirmed to a pro military news outlet that its not undermanned 😂, thats exactly the same as 'we investigated ourselves, and found ourselves, not guilty.<br><br>Also, why not ask soldiers what they think, and not officers, without the threat of AGAI action, then see the outcome.
We have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong 🙃
Recruiters should be picky anyway even if they’re desperate. The last thing we need is incompetent infantry. Diversity quotas will lose wars, simple as that. All is fair in love and war, only the strong survive
Its gen Z not zee
Is that the current or replacement
This is obviously taken from the BBC 😂😊
We are not undermanned? Seems to me that someone has been cooking the books.
Nonsense. 73000 members is way under your needs if Russia comes for you. You would need to double up and conscription would be the plan however, their training period would be much lower than the professional force. Work it out for yourself.
The British Army is too small to be an effective fighting force.
Whatever the case, at least that will stop thoughts of forced conscription.
I don’t believe a single word of it.
Please don't be an arm of the establishment. Report properly.
Yeah right what a crock!.
Well we've got more ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS than British forces, so not enough to defend our own homeland if the ILLEGALS rise up. Why would anyone want to join the British army knowing that the government will chase and try to prosecute them well into their 70's for doing what the government told them to do. 73,600 troops compared to the hundreds of thousands of ILLEGALS. If the army are saying there are enough troops, why are the government talking about conscription??? At least be honest with us
Talking right oot yer arse hole fella
The British Military should legalize National PMCs in order to make up for the shitshow.
Why are some regiments almost entirely full of Fijians then ?
Can be under-manned when you aren’t participating in any wars
What the MOD wants the army to be and what it needs to be is another matter. There are more fighting age young illegal male immigrants than the army.
No, what we are short of, is drones, missiles, air defences AND military police to round up faragist nazis off the streets and out of public life, into internment camps (they can share the dorms with illegal migrants awaiting deportation)
If the Army is at the required strength already then they should be picky with who they let in so that the Army fills with only the best people for the job; however, regardless of what the Government says, the Army is not at the required strength, and needs plenty more people of the required standard and above, not just the best of the best
600 is not a lot extra man…
What about the Navy? We’re constantly being told that the fleet hasn’t got the number of sailors necessary to fully man the (few) ships we have
lol we’re not weak I promise!! Look we have some men. Enough men hopefully
According to government and MOD 😂
Everyone plays call of duty everyone loves war
No disrespect intended but 73,000 active duty troops doesn’t seem like a lot for an entire country. By comparison the US has well over 300,000 troops in just the National Guard. Note this does not include the 450,000 or more troops in active duty regular army units or the approximately 180,000 troops in army reserve units. Given what’s going on in Europe are there plans to increase the size of the British army?
170 people 😂
A country with over 70M population (including illegals), should have a minimum of 700,000 soldiers.
Should they have to use the army cadets marching to show manning. Thats how short we are.
How many units are operating at levels which would not be considered full strength even 10 years ago? When we have battalions missing entire companies we’re not convincing anyone that the Army is at full strength.
Also, modern warfare no longer requires a vast majority of troops just look at the Ukraine war where superior manpower no longer guarantees you will win strategically on the battlefield… Since drones/robots are increasingly replacing certain front line duties…
Yes. And I also heard them say “it’s only a flesh wound.” 😅
Its not an army it's a defence force.
We expect this type of lying from politicians, but anyone involved in the military making these lies fit should be held criminally accountable.
Maybe if we spent more on defending those who did serve and what we spend for service,than what we are paying for people to fake disability and handing out books telling new people not to 🍇 people ,we could get more people in <br>(Including me)<br><br>🖕🏻Labour
Led by pieces of scat more like!
Does anyone trust any information given by this government?
If he looks like a muppet and talks like a muppet then his a muppet
Yes, absolutely spot on, 2" is more than enough to please your husband's boyfriend, a general told me so...
They have to say this as they can not afford to look weak as America collapses and Russia becomes aggressive.
The MOD is wrong
Of course we ALL believe the labour party propaganda 😊
It’s a shambles. Can’t afford to let the lads do live fire ex but you want to recall 95k veterans? And at the same time we’re not undermanned? Have a day off ya speccy donkey
Shut up...
73000, f all!
Isn’t it a joke how people are supposed to buy this nonsense, I have ex services friends and they all say the same things…no equipment, no good supplies, everything is on a shoestring!<br><br>Nobody wants to fight your wars, nobody wants to hear your propaganda, nobody is falling for it a 3rd time round to bring a global conflict into play!<br><br>The only thing that needs defending is Britain/Europe and its borders.
How many are combat ready, combat trained and frontline soldiers though?<br>I got out in 08 and we were saying back then that we're unofficially classed as a militia because of the low numbers of infantry we had and the official MOD numbers for the Army were just over 107,000!!!<br>The MOD get away with the numbers game because of all the different roles, when one hears army, they automatically think infantry. But you can be an army doctor, dentist, cook, MP etc the actual number of frontline combat affective soldiers is about 30,000 when you take into account the different roles medical or deployment restrictions etc
No it's over manned with the WOKE COMMUNITY 😂😂😂😂
73,000 troops?! 😐<br><br>Even if an average UK-soldier manages to dodge many times the bullets and drones that a Russian soldier does, and given that Russian monthly casualties are ~27,000 soldiers during the ongoing full scale high intensity war in Ukraine, the British Army would run out of effective manpower (an army brakes down well before the last soldier is out - somewhere closer to ~30-40% of initial manpower) within a few months.<br><br>You can’t replenish such a small army fast enough, as the timeline between start of full scale war, and casualties reaching a critical level is far too short to get any replacement out of even the most rudimentary training pipeline.<br><br>The British army should train each and every man and women in its ranks as a drone operator ….. NOW.
Its a pack of lies.<br>If it's true why do they need the reserves?
you can fit the british army in a football field. britain has become weak, a laughing stock, a dictatorship, and an embarrasment.
They want us to believe they are undermanned because they want to send all of the UKs fighting aged citizens over to upcoming war they are currently mongering.
So is the pronunciation of Z
They wouldnt even let me join😂
could be down to them aiming for minorities and when you consider at the height of the cold war we had 300,000 soldiers.
When comes to war the gona need as many volunteers as as possible by all means veterans will also be called up cadets with vital skills training n selection from schools should be 18 but no what grounds of ages there university all ready have corps by all means u can train them from 15 16 or younger not to fight to 18 talks of kid operating drones eg gamers let’s see how that plays out obviously still 18 but unless government does decide to lower age but personally age of war 18 unless they do with consent u have ur mobile unit reservist to. Plus u got plenty of unemployment that could go to some use as they put people on course should bring bk type national service like use to have not just nessary volunteer but precisely the fact that many had no choice I’m all for that but if it has to be it has to be done trust me government at anytime can change this thos who seem fight well able to fight they must right but I get perspective many parents won’t won’t it but it is what it is all in government hands n plans. I believe in peace to but when comes to crunch it is what it is
73k is microscopic
In 2010 the UK military had 350,000 personal, so why reduce it to the laughing stock of Europe?
If there are 70 plus thousand then there may be enough to deal with the problems this country sees on its own shores to defend the people they signed up to protect by the people who fund them
I wouldn’t be called up thank fouck that is l have no chance. Not for a government that is treasonous enough to put fodder for the Russians.
translation: were not undermanned, we just can't afford more
😂
I m not Brit, but 73000 is not enough.
Who believes this tripe. Six months to get in after first application, three thousand troops, sick, lame and lazy. The MOD states we only need so many, so, so many it is. Didn't some General recently state we would struggle to produce one fully armed and manned division? Bet he never got another promotion.
If what you say is TRUE, why are they saying they will be mobilising the VOLUNTEERS RESERVE next year, why go to that expense if we have a big enough FORCE to defend the Country…….and do try telling us it’s to test the system…….are they trying to say the Army is big enough to go to WAR?
No one wants to serve a government that only looks to serve foreigners
I've spoken to a few serving soldiers and one officer from various regiments and all said they are undermanned, so is it BFBS telling lies or the MOD?
Anyone fit to join should join in my opinion
By that logic the BA could have 100 total troops and if that meets defence requirements then the Army's not undermanned. Is the glass half empty or half full? Depends how you frame it, and I take that same perspective to every mainstream media news post I encounter, because nowadays, it's all about framing.<br><br>I'm not a shelf-stacker or a stock assistant.<br><br>I'm a self-employed (agency) inventory replenishment operative, with specialist inventory management training. 👍🏽😀<br><br>If anyone needs a CV, you know where to find me. 😂😂
These are just infantry numbers. There is a decline, for example in 2008, at the height of the Iraq and Afghan conflicts the infantry was at 102,000ish men. But that was because of the way we operated at that time, large scale operations and smaller localised conflicts like Northern Ireland, over several theatres at a time. <br>We do not operate like that anymore, the nature of war has changed yet again, countries fighting each other now are back in the trenches with a new threat to deal with, drones among other new technologies, weapons etc.<br>I hate to say it, but gone are the days when big ops where in vogue, sending several battalions out at a time, are over. <br>But, also, we are struggling as a nation at the moment, the funding and will to fight are not the same as they were in 2008. No matter which way we skin it, we are not the same country and military as we were 20 years ago. <br>There are plenty of ways we can change that, but I ain’t no politician, I’m just a bod.
Stop the cap
Don't let them 'regardless', they must all achieve the required standards
Lies
These are peace time figures but do the includ the terriers clearly there are not enough personnel to fight major conflict say agains any larger country on our own
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