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‘I feel like they’re gonna have to be kicked out’ - Theo Walcott after Man City's charges | ESPN FC

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@R-Edds
@@R-EddsImported1mo ago
Read online that 900 Million in sham revenue through 2009 to 2018 is worth 2.5 Billion in today's money; adjusted for football inflation. That is absurd!
@darcy6979
@@darcy6979Imported1mo ago
Independent panel set by Arsenal affiliated people to investigate information provided via a criminal hacker.... smells more dodgy than the accusations!!
@Thandiizo
@@ThandiizoImported1mo ago
We make more revenue than United 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Red-Red-Red-Red
@@Red-Red-Red-RedImported1mo ago
The world of the world will watch Liverpool carve Man City into pieces on Sunday 11th October.
@amlalone22
@@amlalone22Imported1mo ago
Man the one guy talking has no clue. The appeal has nothing to do with presenting the evidence again
@Prasko_131
@@Prasko_131Imported1mo ago
Serious conversation needed on Pep Guardiola&#39;s managing career. <br><br>Negreira case with a Barcelona (still in court with no offical final verdict) and now 115 charges with Man City (proven guilty)
@meloc2001
@@meloc2001Imported1mo ago
Force a sale? How about giving them a 250pt deduction that needs to be worked off over several years. Maybe they can avoid going down to the National League.
@abdelelazhari9116
@@abdelelazhari9116Imported1mo ago
They be kicked out 4 sure 😢
@rapptimes226
@@rapptimes226Imported1mo ago
I’m a united fan. And I’m crushed for all the other clubs in the league. Even Liverpool and Arsenal. Their players and managers legacy’s were affected immensely, artificially altered I guess. Leicester city is in leauge 1 right now. They finished 5th twice. Imagine if they made the champions league and were able to reinforce their squad a bit better. They might not be in League 1. Newcastle has all the money in the world but follow the rules to the enth degree and get hijacked at every turn. It’s just absolutely discusting what city has done. And the way their owners, board and a lot of fans online have acted. I have next to zero sympathy for them as a collective. I truly feel for every other club and their fans here.
@vlad-z1n3x
@@vlad-z1n3xImported1mo ago
Sure, throw the book at them of you so wish. But, youll have to investigate the Saudi Arabia League and the MLS
@bubugaga2106
@@bubugaga2106Imported1mo ago
The fact those muppets city fans said that epl will be nothing without man city...they bring in the revenue etc...THE LEAGUE WAS DOING JUST FINE BEFORE YOU LOT BECOME A THING...Man city cheated their way to construct their team and you dumb braindead fans condones it?..you accepted that cheating in &#39;&#39;proffesional&#39;&#39; sports are allowed..shows how digusting of a human being scumbags they are
@nainickdaniel7578
@@nainickdaniel7578Imported1mo ago
They should be deducted 1000 points<br><br>Be relegated to the Sunday league<br><br>Start a 100 games 5 goals down and 4 red cards down
@djarm67
@@djarm67Imported1mo ago
The level of cheating over a significant number of years (in excess of 900M) allowed MC to sign squads that they should not have been able to do. Whilst other teams were having to sell good players to stay within the rules, MC accumulated illegal teams. On the back of this illegal success, they have built revenue streams that are continuing today. Interestingly, the fake sponsorships were increasing not decreasing prior to the Der Spiegel expose in 2018 and further leaks indicate it extended to 2020. The sponsorships were restructured and Emirates increased sponsorship in a yearly rollover. Not one player in their existing squad signed their latest contract / extension prior to the investigation. All had knowledge of the investigation and 115 charges when putting pen to paper (02/23). MC knew of the guilty result in July prior to loading up the squad with Fernandez, Anderson, Bouaddi and Ndiaye. Most likely expecting a transfer ban.
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<br>3 tier penalty.
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<br>1) Stripped of all titles acquired due to the vast extent of the cheating. Trophies will not be reallocated. They will simply be retracted like other famous cheats. e.g. Lance Armstrong.
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<br>2) 150 point penalty. Whatever points they accumulate this season, will be deducted from their balance. This will result in them being relegated. Whenever they are promoted again, they will need to clear the remaining balance. e.g. if they can clear 85 points of their penalty this season, when they are promoted to the EPL next, they will still have another 65 points to clear from their ledger.
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<br>3) The EPL will need to conduct an audit to approximate how much each team has missed out on broadcast revenue etc for each of the cheating years plus an approximate value for each team which missed out on Champions League or were relegated from 18th position (maybe 50M for each of these as a rough guide). This will likely result in MC having to pay in excess of 750M to the EPL who will distribute based on an open, transparent calculation. This will need to be factored into all future FFP / SCR until cleared. Having a royal write a one off cheque does not qualify.
@Prasko_131
@@Prasko_131Imported1mo ago
Without Oil money, Middlesborough 8-1 Man City
@Prasko_131
@@Prasko_131Imported1mo ago
£900 million in inflated revenue just look at that SHEER amount. It’s not a joke. 115 financial breaches despite repeated warnings, and they didn’t listen to a single one. All hope is lost if they don’t receive a serious punishment. An example has to be set.<br><br>This has to be one of the biggest sporting scandals, up there with Lance Armstrong’s doping scandal.<br><br>Just imagine the unfair advantage they gained through all those sham deals and inflated figures.
@apahl21
@@apahl21Imported1mo ago
Rui Pinto is a hero!!!
@KingEirik7
@@KingEirik7Imported1mo ago
Relegation down two tiers and transfer ban plus pay back what they owe other clubs.
@edwardreid1967
@@edwardreid1967Imported1mo ago
I’d say 900 points loss of 90 points for 10 seasons . Transfer ban for 10 years. All titles /cups stripped . 1.15 billion fine. Owners have to leave England .
@Scouse_97
@@Scouse_97Imported1mo ago
900 million that’s wild bro 😮😮
@apahl21
@@apahl21Imported1mo ago
Sucks to be a City fan
@paultaylor9498
@@paultaylor9498Imported1mo ago
Should be enough points to send then down this season then banned from returning to the Premier league for a period of years
@soccerdoc03
@@soccerdoc03Imported1mo ago
What about the bonuses that those players would have had if they won the league over city? I think they would want their money
@kentonburke4433
@@kentonburke4433Imported1mo ago
I&#39;ve heard enough, deduct 10 points from Everton!
@Prasko_131
@@Prasko_131Imported1mo ago
They are proven GUILTY for 115 (One hundred and fifteen) charges. Not one btw. If Everton were initially deducted 10 points for 1(SINGLE) charge then tougher punishment should equally exist for Man City. <br><br>Relegate them to atleast League 1, give them 5 year transfer ban, strip all the titles. <br><br>Nobody told them to break the rule. Newcastle sold their best players last 2 seasons to make sure that no rules are breached, Spurs didn&#39;t sign any players for 18 months to comply within the PL rules
@HeavensSeedofTestimony-j4c
@@HeavensSeedofTestimony-j4cImported1mo ago
Enzo Fernandez, how far na? Bro. .
@khalzo7804
@@khalzo7804Imported1mo ago
Klopp said that he will get on the bus
@vlad-z1n3x
@@vlad-z1n3xImported1mo ago
This is exactly why you should tax wealth and not work.
@brianvictorkeys3107
@@brianvictorkeys3107Imported1mo ago
Netanyahu has been in UAE reportedly to buy Manchester City and turn them into the world’s most moral football club.
@A_corofcb
@@A_corofcbImported1mo ago
Didn’t even think about the angle of other teams suing city for missed revenue!!! 😂😂😂😂 they are so cooked
@NeilB.-rv2ww
@@NeilB.-rv2wwImported1mo ago
Stop spreading false info.<br>35 of the 115 charges were regarding non-coperation.<br>PL have only said majority of these charges were upheld.<br>Its likely but not definitive that the other 4 sections were all considered essential PL breaches.<br>The original report that the majority 9f the charges were upheld was cirrectly phrased.<br>In probability it is 98+ but PL have not clarified.<br>Truly shoddy reporting<br>Don&#39;t give MCity any grounds for unfair process.
@xavikariichiban9446
@@xavikariichiban9446Imported1mo ago
Again with pep’s face. He was an employee!!! Show man city owner faces!!!!
@vexxed1414
@@vexxed1414Imported1mo ago
Super important to note that one cannot prove something did not happen. That&#39;s not how it works
@Texas503
@@Texas503Imported1mo ago
10 years cheating = 5th division to begin
@joyceprashar
@@joyceprasharImported1mo ago
Who cares about the former player&#39;s emotions? It&#39;s the fans that fund the league. Athletes&#39; intelligence is unfortunately quite limited. They don&#39;t seem to have that self awareness.
@byronc6790
@@byronc6790Imported1mo ago
Pablo Torre we need you 😂😂
@FinnessedX666
@@FinnessedX666Imported1mo ago
City forgot their monthly payments to keep things on the low 😂
@Raf4sure
@@Raf4sureImported1mo ago
I see how Rodri won the ballon dor
@user-kq2ef3st8o
@@user-kq2ef3st8oImported1mo ago
If you weren&#39;t born in Manchester , then you had no business being a Manchester city fan anyway , a soulless club players only went there because of Pep 😅
@NeN48-7
@@NeN48-7Imported1mo ago
He shouldn&#39;t have used the term &quot;conspiracy theory&quot;. Because many theories that us conspiracy nuts talked about has been coming true. 😅
@apahl21
@@apahl21Imported1mo ago
The club is cooked
@Dee_arrAbdullah
@@Dee_arrAbdullahImported1mo ago
Man City was worth 190 million $ in 2009.They’re worth 5.5$ Billion pounds now and they built it all through cheating and deceit.<br>Even if they get relegated and Fined a billion they’d think it was worth it.The premier league has to make an example out of them.
@robertoarsenal9044
@@robertoarsenal9044Imported1mo ago
Take away all their trophies . Deduct them 115 points . Have city pay 100 million to the rest of the 19 clubs in the premier league . Even have them pay west ham and Southampton 100 each .
@JeffVenndiagram
@@JeffVenndiagramImported1mo ago
Theo Walcott the most pointless person in football
@GB-fk7eq
@@GB-fk7eqImported1mo ago
The geo political scope is worth a mention as a warning moving forward. De facto nation states, ones with arms deals with the UK especially should definitely never be allowed as owners of any sports teams in any sport. Police should be involved at this stage but I bet that won&#39;t happen because of this geo political scope
@robl326
@@robl326Imported1mo ago
HMRC are going to be very interested in these under the table payments. Points are about to be the least of their problems.
@TobiMesh
@@TobiMeshImported1mo ago
When will they do the investigation from 2018 - date? Or did they just stop doing this from 2018.
@Uccapone
@@UccaponeImported1mo ago
714 point deduction sounds about right
@bcatcool
@@bcatcoolImported1mo ago
Kick them out cheating on this level is beyond....Fraud! Call the police.
@real5901
@@real5901Imported1mo ago
Not a thing will happen, watch and see
@FieldsofFreedom
@@FieldsofFreedomImported1mo ago
This is going to get even worse, this is absolutely massive what a time to be alive
@GB-fk7eq
@@GB-fk7eqImported1mo ago
Irrefutable evidence and yet the club faced 35 charges for failing to cooperate with EPL investigations. City fans still on side of their club eventually being found innocent, hush up, stop. Have some respect and actual love for ur club and look to getting the club u love back and restore real pride and integrity. Don&#39;t be glory hunting proven plastics still trying to enable your owners that have truly damaged ur club and football as a whole, period.
@MJ1931.
@@MJ1931.Imported1mo ago
You cannot have City sitting at the top of the league after being found guilty (what a look) the point deduction needs adding asap then have the outcome of the appeal in early 2027.
@franchise79
@@franchise79Imported1mo ago
FAKE NEWS!
@anilbodar9394
@@anilbodar9394Imported1mo ago
Basically city win everything with cheating. Basically pep won everything with cheating be it steroids or money . And you are dumb if you think they are not paying to media .. you can clearly see whoever still backing them .
@GreggaraZZi
@@GreggaraZZiImported1mo ago
This is the happiest I&#39;ve ever seen Oggie, LOL. Oh well, we fight on.
@Iamtheiguana
@@IamtheiguanaImported1mo ago
Put a hard cap on their player salaries for 9 seasons, you cant pay any single player over this amount per week, and actually monitor it for compliance. Cap them at like 85k/week max and then see if they can rebuild it or rightfully end up where they were before
@jeanst.ledger5086
@@jeanst.ledger5086Imported1mo ago
Panic in the streets of London they said. More like fra*d in the streets of Manchester!
@masterzblaze4951
@@masterzblaze4951Imported1mo ago
The harder you punish Manchester City, the harder the Premier League drags itself through the mud; the Premier League will lose many coefficient points because of this.
@dansari0007
@@dansari0007Imported1mo ago
But City fans are venomously saying they&#39;ve innocent &amp; rival fans need to move on 😅
@daveinniss954
@@daveinniss954Imported1mo ago
Salary caps like in American sports. That is truly leveling the playing field. All this financial rules would do is keep the little, little and elite, elite and put upstarts back in their place.
@anilbodar9394
@@anilbodar9394Imported1mo ago
So managers and players don&#39;t know about 😂 what a joke .. city made payment to whom actually and all signings have nothing to with pep . What a joke they telling. Pep and players all take this extra money and said less received.
@Elhombredelsacodivertido_91
@@Elhombredelsacodivertido_91Imported1mo ago
I&#39;d start looking into the City group as a whole and all them clubs they have bought over the years.
@Mrblobby5
@@Mrblobby5Imported1mo ago
We can’t have them winning any titles for another 15 years. Put them in national league!!!
@Ars_RmCf
@@Ars_RmCfImported1mo ago
Arsène Wenger is a better manager than Pep it’s official
@klopptillyoudropp1263
@@klopptillyoudropp1263Imported1mo ago
1 Take all their trophies and wins for that period. <br>2 Relegate to the lowest possible division. <br>3 Force club sale<br>4 Break up Oasis
@Jesus_E5150
@@Jesus_E5150Imported1mo ago
Rodri should be stripped of his Ballon d&#39;Or!
@MailandInter24
@@MailandInter24Imported1mo ago
100 point deduction, 4 window transfer ban, 900 million Pound fine.
@andylikesstuffchannel
@@andylikesstuffchannelImported1mo ago
Predestination Paradox City is a Sham not my Words
@artistjjebsen
@@artistjjebsenImported1mo ago
Every away stadium will be an absolute nightmare for City fans and players. First up, Anfield.
@Jesperii10
@@Jesperii10Imported1mo ago
They should also be going for Chelsea, this all started in 2004 with Abrohomovic, the PSG, City. These clubs own by Russian, American and Arab oligarchs destroyed this sport.
@AkibMinhaz-d3p
@@AkibMinhaz-d3pImported1mo ago
Kings of manchester is united and it will never change❤❤❤❤
@dunemeow356
@@dunemeow356Imported1mo ago
EPL/ESPN should investigate Craig Burley to see if he receives money from Man City/Abu Dhabi. His indifference toward Man City cheating is very suspicious.
@AkibMinhaz-d3p
@@AkibMinhaz-d3pImported1mo ago
Man cheaters😂😂😂
@BrunoSportNation
@@BrunoSportNationImported1mo ago
“Stay humble, eh?” Did Man City forget their own advice? 💀
@BrummieGooner
@@BrummieGoonerImported1mo ago
City are screwed.
@IIIEMMANUELIII
@@IIIEMMANUELIIIImported1mo ago
Relegation for 3 years minimum